Let There Be Carnage! Or Confusion?

Marvel Post Credit Scene Stirs Up Fans


Spoilers for Venom: Let There Be Carnage below!

Thanks to Sony, Marvel fans received the second installment of “Venom” this past October. While Sony’s Marvel movies aren’t necessarily a canon to Disney’s Marvel movies, as they’re different entertainment companies, they still exist and have created speculation that there may actually be a connection somewhere down the line.

“Venom: Let There Be Carnage” was the long-awaited sequel that explored Eddie Brock’s life after Venom and Eddie became one. This movie introduces the villain Carnage, a serial killer turned-symbiotic host. But the best part doesn’t come until the very end. Marvel has a long history of dropping important details in their post credit scenes in order to hint at what’s to come. Many theories arise from these scenes, making them uber important for the plot of the entire franchise.

Fans were raging at the sight of the post credit scene for “Venom: Let There Be Carnage,” which was actually leaked just mere hours before the movie’s release. The implications of the almost minute and a half clip spoke volumes for the next Spider-Man movie and the Multiverse of Madness.”The Multiverse of Madness” has been a heated topic ever since Wandavision released in early 2020, with the relationship between Wanda and Vision potentially setting up for the disastrous events of the House of M, or something of the like. Ever since then, fans have been grabbing at every bit of information that could possibly tell us what’s in store for Phase 4. Many tried their best to make connections between the leaked post credit scene and any other Marvel movie, as the scene has now implied that Sony and Disney Marvel movies may actually be connected. This is incredibly significant.

So, for those confused on what it means for the MCU, I am here to help. I believe I may have cracked the code.

It starts with a mutually united Eddie and Venom sitting in a dingy hotel room, presumably on the remote island we see them on in the last scene of the movie. Everything is totally normal, as this is their intended reality. They are both discussing their deep, existential thoughts, and Venom mentions the 80 billion light years worth of knowledge his brain is harboring, explaining that Eddie couldn’t even handle a fragment of it. Eddie bets Venom that he could take it, and he reluctantly agrees. As soon as he’s about to share the knowledge, a surge of energy bursts through the room, shifting them into a newer looking hotel room, that of an expensive resort. Eddie and Venom are both confused, and what’s on the TV makes them even more confused. The screen is displaying a breaking news broadcast regarding Peter Parker being the true identity of Spider-Man, but Tom Holland’s Peter Parker (Disney’s Spider-Man). In that moment, Venom takes over Eddie’s body and moves towards the TV, acknowledging Peter’s face on the screen, and possibly recognizing his identity as well. Venom licks the TV (for some reason), and the scene ends there.

How is this significant at all? What does it mean? Here’s what I think: the surge of energy wasn’t actually Venom. It was actually Dr. Strange. In the “No Way Home” trailer, we see Peter’s identity get exposed. He goes to Dr. Strange, a sorcerer, in hopes that he could help erase the past and conceal his identity once again. This is because Strange possesses the powers to shift realities. But Strange messes up the spell, resulting in Sony villains and Sony Spider-Men entering their reality (rumored). This happens because Strange’s spell accidentally forges all ideas, topics, people, and things relating to the name “Spider-Man” together into one reality, the main reality that we see the most of in the Disney Marvel movies. This includes Tobey Maguire’s Spider-Man, Andrew Garfield’s Spider-Man, Doc Ock, Green Goblin, Lizard, Sandman, etc. Dr. Strange’s spell was powerful enough to bring Eddie, Venom, and the other Sony characters into this same reality where Disney’s Peter Parker resides. This should be impossible, as the Spider-Man Venom should be seeing on the TV should be Tobey Maguire’s Spider-Man. But it is possible, and it’s awesome. Now that Sony and Disney are clashing, the realities found within their films are now doing the same, creating what looks like an early concept of the “Multiverse of Madness.”

This is HUGE. These Sony characters are all strictly separate from Disney. So bringing them into the Disney movies confirms them as Disney Marvel canon. This is genius, as its development and introduction has easily spanned out more than a decade of filmmaking.

But why Venom? Why was this information given to us now? There was certainly a reason why this was revealed in the post credit scene of the Venom movie, and not any other movie. Venom may have a huge role in the Multiverse of Madness. If we recall, Venom has lifetimes worth of knowledge within him. This means that somewhere in those lifetimes, he knew some version of  “Spider-Man,”  not Tom Holland’s version, but Tobey Maguire’s version, as Venom was last seen as Peter Parker’s rival in Spider-Man 3 (a Sony movie). He may end up using his past interactions with Sony’s “Spider-Man “to take down Disney’s Spider-Man, and even Dr.Strange, assuming Venom goes feral and becomes a villain again. If this is the case, Venom may be the reason the “Multiverse of Madness” spirals out into chaos and mayhem. He may be the reason that time, space, and reality get torn apart. Best case scenario, Venom uses his infinite knowledge to help Spider-Man put an end to the incoming madness. But how good can things really turn out if the fate of the multiverse rests in Venom’s hands?

UPDATE (“Spider-Man: No Way Home” spoilers): Upon the release of the “Spider-Man: No Way Home” trailer, the theory of the multiverse was indeed confirmed. Fans were already aware of its forthcoming, but weren’t sure of its exact introduction in the movies. Just as speculated, we saw snippets of Doc Ock, Green Goblin, Lizard, Sandman, Electro, and John Jonah Jameson Jr, and even a parallel of Gwen Stacy’s death with MJ instead. Things are looking wild for Marvel fans.